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    Love the Maltersers adverts - especially the girl in the wheelchair talking about her other half's dick and then the one with the dog and the hearingaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VLAD (the Friendly Vamp) View Post
    Love the Maltersers adverts - especially the girl in the wheelchair talking about her other half's dick and then the one with the dog and the hearingaid.
    Wot?
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    "Life is too short to have anything but delusional notions about yourself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by VLAD (the Friendly Vamp) View Post
    Hadn't seen that before. It is funny, but a little risque. Almost a throw back to the '70s but with the tables turned. I'm not being a prude or anything, but I'm not sure how it would be received if it were fellas indulging in 'locker room' talk whilst trying to promote chocolate treats?

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    I can't imagine that's been shown on the telly! Very good though.

    Its funny, this whole #metoo thing... there is a small chorus of people that say how come its all right for women to openly indulge in "phwooooar, Poldark!" etc but not blokes re women.

    The fact of the matter is, its different. Its not as potentially sinister, and it doesn't have the same undertones. I can't explain why, but there it is. Probably because as a bloke we would never feel threatened (and would probably be flattered) by unsolicited female interest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSboy View Post
    I can't imagine that's been shown on the telly! Very good though.

    Its funny, this whole #metoo thing... there is a small chorus of people that say how come its all right for women to openly indulge in "phwooooar, Poldark!" etc but not blokes re women.

    The fact of the matter is, its different. Its not as potentially sinister, and it doesn't have the same undertones. I can't explain why, but there it is. Probably because as a bloke we would never feel threatened (and would probably be flattered) by unsolicited female interest...
    Good point.

    It does bring the question of equality up though. I can recall watching a documentary about male strippers and some of the things they had to 'endure' from women was astonishing...it was accepted as part of the normal routine though. Perhaps there was a commensal element to it too. I've been to a couple of men's clubs when I was younger, and I can't imagine it ending well if I tried doing the same kinda things some women do to male strippers...well, not without parting with quite a bit of cash and being escorted to a back room.

    Besides discussing the acceptable norms of social and gender issues, the one area where real improvement needs to be made is women should earn the same amount of money that men earn for doing the same job. It's a piss-take that more isn't done to make it happen.
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    Getting philosophical, its about balance of power I guess. To a point, a stripper is the one who holds the power over their audience, where it becomes imbalanced is the dodgier end which crosses the line to sex work, and then the power lies with who is controlling the girls and how.

    The problem with equal pay is that jobs are not always equal, nor is the qualifications and experience of people, so its rarely as simple as 'he earns more than her'. For example, an airline looks massively imbalanced on an average pay basis as pilots are mostly men. The bigger issue there is why more pilots are not women. Its also made harder because pay is shrouded in secrecy (although the total comp of main board directors of listed companies is transparent)
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    Again, fair points but as demonstrated recently by the BBC, many women with equal amount of experience and qualifications as their male colleagues are paid far less. That isn't right.

    Gary Lineker is the top earner on the Beeb for presenting MotD, and his background is a professional footballer. Compare that with some of his female colleagues who are university educated, worked for local radio, then TV and onto presenting. It doesn't seem that fair.

    It would also be interesting to find out what the likes of Robbie Savage* earns for his pearls of wisdom and then compare that to Eni Aluko*.

    * - for example.

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    With regards to your comment about pilot's pay, it would be interesting to find out if male and female pilots with the same amount of experience earned the same. It's reasonable to expect someone who has been in a job for 20 years to be on a higher pay scale than someone who lacks that experience, but many women are paid less than their male counterparts when they have the same, or more experience and/or qualifications.

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    I would imagine that pilots pay would be similar, much as it is with medics, because of the rigid structure of the organisations.

    The real surprise to me is the BBC, firstly how the management thought they could get away with paying such differential amounts, and secondly why they thought they needed to.

    But to your Gary Lineker point- he is indeed a famous ex-footballer and this is where his value is. No amount of educational or broadcasting experience is a substitute for that profile and insight. It is like comparing Carrie Gracie to Jon Sopel or Jeremy Bowen. Yes they have similar jobs as senior foreign correspondents, but their backgrounds and experience are different.

    The fact I had to google Eni Aluko probably answers the final question sadly!
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