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    6 Nations.

    Right, forget all this cycling nonsense the 6 Nations is back!

    England team just announced and incredibly no Mike Brown even in match day 23. Must be injured as it's madness not to have him at 15 as Ireland be raining high balls down on Daley. Daley is a class player but recent form has been poor and undoubtedly he'll be targeted. Also Kruis in for Launchbury bit of a surprise but Kruis is solid player. Going to be a tough gig in Ireland but a cracking game.
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    I'll leave you and Nick to it...
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    Oh Yeah. Cracking
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    Read somewhere that we haven't scored a try in Dublin since 2011!!

    Ireland have improved a lot since then so it will take a massive effort to get a result. We have a chance, but Ireland firm favourites.

    Not overly happy with the team. Midfield looks wrong. Happy to see Tuilagi back, but how long before he limps off? As much as I like Slade, and I really do, he has been a bit mixed for England. Plus I think his best position is 13.

    Also, Farrell at 10? Fack sake, he absolutely kills our attack. Granted he puts in the occasional big hit and kicks some goals (which is seemingly why the media obsess over him), but he just doesn't have the running game or vision to get the backs moving. If he plays, I'd rather him be at 12 with Ford at 10. However, no matter how he plays, you can guarantee Jones will take either Slade or Tuilagi (if he lasts that long) off, then put Ford at 10 and shift Farrell to 12.

    Agree about Brown not being in the team. In fact, we have no specialist full back. Daly is a far better winger and centre than a full back. Nowell can cover there, but again, he's a winger. Daly is going to be tested for sure.

    Bit happier with the forwards. Is Launchbury injured? Back row looks as good as it can considering injuries. Just hope Billy V makes it through the 80 mins unscathed. Nice to see Robson on the bench too.

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    Is it time I made my return to national level rugby then ???? I used to play at wing and full back for the Regiment and Army.
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    I can cover 10 or 12

    Can fucking pass better than Farrell from left to right too!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick1020 View Post
    Read somewhere that we haven't scored a try in Dublin since 2011!!

    Ireland have improved a lot since then so it will take a massive effort to get a result. We have a chance, but Ireland firm favourites.

    Not overly happy with the team. Midfield looks wrong. Happy to see Tuilagi back, but how long before he limps off? As much as I like Slade, and I really do, he has been a bit mixed for England. Plus I think his best position is 13.

    Also, Farrell at 10? Fack sake, he absolutely kills our attack. Granted he puts in the occasional big hit and kicks some goals (which is seemingly why the media obsess over him), but he just doesn't have the running game or vision to get the backs moving. If he plays, I'd rather him be at 12 with Ford at 10. However, no matter how he plays, you can guarantee Jones will take either Slade or Tuilagi (if he lasts that long) off, then put Ford at 10 and shift Farrell to 12.

    Agree about Brown not being in the team. In fact, we have no specialist full back. Daly is a far better winger and centre than a full back. Nowell can cover there, but again, he's a winger. Daly is going to be tested for sure.

    Bit happier with the forwards. Is Launchbury injured? Back row looks as good as it can considering injuries. Just hope Billy V makes it through the 80 mins unscathed. Nice to see Robson on the bench too.
    Would that be Owen - two time European Championship Cup winner (at 10), four times Premiership winner (at 10), England, British & Irish Lion - Farrell?

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    Don't forget the Wales v France game tomorrow night. Looking forward to seeing how Wales go. Fingers crossed we get off to a winning start and set the tone for the rest of the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyt916 View Post
    Would that be Owen - two time European Championship Cup winner (at 10), four times Premiership winner (at 10), England, British & Irish Lion - Farrell?
    Yes, that's the fella Andy....Farrell by any chance?

    You do realise some of those achievements are not down to him alone right? You must also realise that he plays for the best premiership team too? One with a renowned pack too.

    He's a player that divides quite a bit of opinion amongst fans, English and overseas. However, he seems to get plaudits in the media. I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just don't rate the ability to make some big hits and kick goals as being first and foremost for a 10. He does not have the distribution skills of a few other fly halves. At times, his passing is shocking. To the floor, or over the heads of players. This is not really world class territory for a position that requires accuracy is it? His right to left passing is pretty good. The bullet of a pass to find Daly to beat Wales in the 2017 6 Nations is a good example, but you would expect a tier one international fly half to make that pass off their strong hand.

    I know many of the prawn sandwich brigade won't hear a bad word against him. That's up to them, but I've spoken to many neutral fans, as well as other England fans that simply don't see what the fuss is about. His kicking has helped to win games, important games too like the 3-0 whitewash of Australia, in Australia. Tbf, he had a very good series with the boot, but Ford did start at 10 for two of the tests.

    Also, what annoys me...and this isn't Farrell's fault, is the media obsession. It's almost as if Owen is covered in Teflon. His mistakes don't get analysed, or discussed, whereas other players get called out for it. And he does indeed make mistakes such as the poor passes, not finding touch, missing loads of tackles...sometimes double figures for a single match and believe it or not, he also misses his fair share of kicks at goal. He is only human after all, but listening to the commentary when he lines a kick up and hearing crap like 'ice man', 'temperament' and 'faultless' boils my piss....more so when he does miss. Compare that to Ford when he's lining up to take a kick. You can hear the commentators talk about him missing kicks years ago???

    Good player no doubt. Vastly improved too since he came on the scene, but I just don't buy that he is the new Jonny Wilkinson that the media is trying to make us believe. Wilkinson had a far better all round game and could pass off both hands...kick off both feet and missed far fewer tackles and still made those big hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skwarczek View Post
    Don't forget the Wales v France game tomorrow night. Looking forward to seeing how Wales go. Fingers crossed we get off to a winning start and set the tone for the rest of the tournament.
    Backing Wales to win. Tips and Moriarty in the backrow could be the difference.

    Be nice to see Wainwright come on too. Local lad...went to the primary and comprehensive schools my kids went to

    Ireland definitely favourites for the championship, but if things don't go their way, anyone of four teams have a shout.

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